The Sabrina Carpenter You Don’t Know

We go deep on Sabrina Carpenter's career in the new episode of 'Rolling Stone Music Now' - Credit: TheStewartofNY/GC Images

Sabrina Carpenter is as good as any current pop star at cultivating controversy and attention —the latest evidence was the now-subsided furor over her absurd Man’s Best Friend album cover, which seems to take cues from Spinal Tap’s Smell the Glove. “She’s leaning into it and laughing about it at the same time,” says Angie Martoccio, who profiled Carpenter for her recent Rolling Stone cover story —which revealed that image aside, the singer’s true obsession is music.

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“I wasn’t aware that she was a full-on music nerd,” Martoccio says in the latest episode of Rolling Stone Music Now, which takes a deep look at Carpenter’s career so far and previews her next album, Man’s Best Friend, out Aug. 29. (To hear the whole episode, go here for the podcast provider of your choice, listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, or just press play above.)

“She’s obsessed with the Seventies and spends her off-time watching Saturday Night Fever and really studying the discographies of her favorite artists,” Martoccio adds. Carpenter’s ABBA fandom runs so deep she’s named her cats Benny and Björn, attended the ABBA Voyage show multiple times (taking wardrobe inspiration from it), and scored a personal museum tour from Björn Ulvaeus himself.

The episode digs into just how far Carpenter has come from the moment when she seemed in danger of being seen as just “the blonde girl” from Olivia Rodrigo’s “Driver’s License.” The publicity around the two artists’ teenage love triangle seemed to send Carpenter into artistic overdrive: She wrote great songs inspired by it all —“Skin” and “Because I Liked a Boy” —as she began the work of redefining herself on her own terms with 2022’s E-Mails I Didn’t Send. When Martoccio asked if Carpenter ever thinks about that period now, she got a Don Draper-worthy response: “I don’t think about it at all.” Later, Carpenter was spotted watching Rodrigo’s Glastonbury set from the wings.

Martoccio’s interview also touched on Carpenter’s relationship with the world’s scrutiny. The artist admits to reading everything written about her online — from body-shaming comments to criticism of her show’s sexual content — to the point where she’s “numb” to much of it. Her feelings about being picked apart ended up on the vinyl-only “Needless to Say,” a song she told Martoccio is close to her heart.

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